Krym za gaz :

http://niezalezna.pl/57872-tajne-porozumienie-merkel-putin-krym-za-gaz

Angela Merkel i Władimir Putin omawiają tajne porozumienie, które może zakończyć kryzys na Ukrainie – donosi „The Independent”.

Według brytyjskiego dziennika, najbardziej kontrowersyjnym punktem paktu jest żądanie Rosji. Putin ma zgodzić się na porozumienie pod warunkiem, że wspólnota międzynarodowa uzna aneksję Krymu. W zamian Kreml miałby zaprzestać finansowania terrorystów oraz zagwarantować Ukrainie bezpieczeństwo energetyczne. .

Kolejny punkt porozumienia zakłada, że prezydent Petro Poroszenko zgodzi się nie ubiegać o członkostwo w ​​NATO, a w zamian Władimir Putin nie będzie starać się blokować lub zakłócać relacji handlowych Ukrainy z Unią Europejską.

W dalszej części porozumienia jest mowa m.in. o zapewnieniu stronie ukraińskiej długoterminowego kontraktu z „Gazpromem” z wcześniej uzgodnionymi cenami.

Źródła, na które powołuje się „The Independent” zapewniają, że umowa, która już miała być realizowana, znów stanie się aktualna po tym, jak śledztwo w sprawie zestrzelenia Boeinga 777 zakończy się „zadowalającym” wynikiem.

Jak pisze „The Independent”, osiągnięcie porozumienia jest przede wszystkim ważne dla Niemców, ponieważ Rosja jest ich największym partnerem handlowym. Gazeta przypomina, że jeszcze niedawno niemiecki rząd był stanowczo przeciwko nie tylko sankcjom handlowym wobec Rosji, ale również przeciwko sankcjom dyplomatycznym.
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Generał Skalski o żydach w UB :

"Różański, Żyd, kanalia najgorszego gatunku, razem z Brystigerową, Fejginami, to wszystko (...) nie byli ludzie."

prof. PAN Krzysztof Jasiewicz o Ĺźydach :

"Żydów gubi brak umiaru we wszystkim i przekonanie, że są narodem
wybranym. Czują się oni upoważnieni do interpretowania wszystkiego,
także doktryny katolickiej. Cokolwiek byśmy zrobili, i tak będzie
poddane ich krytyce - za mało, że źle, że zbyt mało ofiarnie. W moim
najgłębszym przekonaniu szkoda czasu na dialog z Żydami, bo on do
niczego nie prowadzi... Ludzi, którzy używają słów 'antysemita',
'antysemicki', należy traktować jak ludzi niegodnych debaty, którzy
usiłują niszczyć innych, gdy brakuje argumentów merytorycznych. To oni
tworzą mowę nienawiści".

W dniu 2014-07-31 o 20:09, u2 pisze:

Krym za gaz :

http://niezalezna.pl/57872-tajne-porozumienie-merkel-putin-krym-za-gaz

Angela Merkel i Władimir Putin omawiają tajne porozumienie, które może
zakończyć kryzys na Ukrainie – donosi „The Independent”.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/land-for-gas-secret-german-deal-could-end-ukraine-crisis-9638764.html

Land for gas: Merkel and Putin discussed secret deal could end Ukraine crisis

Merkel and Putin negotiate to trade Crimea’s sovereignty for guarantees on energy security and trade

Margareta Pagano

Thursday, 31 July 2014
Germany and Russia have been working on a secret plan to broker a peaceful solution to end international tensions over the Ukraine.


The Independent can reveal that the peace plan, being worked on by both Angela Merkel and Vladimir Putin, hinges on two main ambitions: stabilising the borders of Ukraine and providing the financially troubled country with a strong economic boost, particularly a new energy agreement ensuring security of gas supplies.

More controversially, if Ms Merkel’s deal were to be acceptable to the Russians, the international community would need to recognise Crimea’s independence and its annexation by Russia, a move that some members of the United Nations might find difficult to stomach.

Sources close to the secret negotiations claim that the first part of the stabilisation plan requires Russia to withdraw its financial and military support for the various pro-separatist groups operating in eastern Ukraine. As part of any such agreement, the region would be allowed some devolved powers.

In pictures: Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crash

At the same time, the Ukrainian President would agree not to apply to join Nato. In return, President Putin would not seek to block or interfere with the Ukraine’s new trade relations with the European Union under a pact signed a few weeks ago.

Second, the Ukraine would be offered a new long-term agreement with Russia’s Gazprom, the giant gas supplier, for future gas supplies and pricing. At present, there is no gas deal in place; Ukraine’s gas supplies are running low and are likely to run out before this winter, which would spell economic and social ruin for the country.


As part of the deal, Russia would compensate Ukraine with a billion-dollar financial package for the loss of the rent it used to pay for stationing its fleets in the Crimea and at the port of Sevastopol on the Black Sea until Crimea voted for independence in March.

However, these attempts by Ms Merkel to act as a broker between President Putin and the Ukraine’s President, Petro Poroshenko, were put on the back-burner following the shooting down of the MH17 plane in eastern Ukraine.

But insiders who are party to the discussions said yesterday that the “German peace plan is still on the table and the only deal around. Negotiations have stalled because of the MH17 disaster but they are expected to restart once the investigation has taken place.”

Video: More pressure on Putin over Ukraine
“It is in everyone’s interests to do a deal. Hopefully, talks will be revived if a satisfactory outcome can be reached to investigations now taking place as to the causes of the MH17 catastrophe.”

Closer trading ties with the EU have been one of the big ambitions of Mr Poroshenko’s presidency. He has been a staunch supporter of the country’s pro-European movement even though he is unaffiliated to any political party. He was one of the backers of the 2004 Orange Revolution and served as Foreign Minister under Yulia Tymoshenko.


A spokesman for the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said they had no knowledge of such negotiations taking place. However, the spokesman said he thought it highly unlikely that either the US or UK would agree to recognising Russian control over Crimea. There was no one available at the German embassy’s press office yesterday.

Reaching a solution to the ongoing dispute is pertinent for the Germans as Russia is their single biggest trading partner. Under Ms Merkel, the Russo-German axis has strengthened significantly and, until the plane shooting, her government had been staunchly against punitive sanctions for commercial but also diplomatic reasons.  Ukraine crisis: Bridges blown up as rebels retreat

Such strong trade ties between the two countries have also served to strengthen Ms Merkel’s hand and the Russian speaker has emerged as the leading advocate of closer relations between the EU and Russia. “This is Merkel’s deal. She has been dealing direct with President Putin on this. She needs to solve the dispute because it’s in no one’s interest to have tension in the Ukraine or to have Russia out in the cold. No one wants another Cold War,” said one insider close to the negotiations.

Some of Germany’s biggest companies have big operations in Russia, which is now one of Europe’s biggest car markets, while many of its small to medium companies are also expanding into the country. Although Russia now provides EU countries with a third of their gas supplies through pipelines crossing the Ukraine, Germany has its own bilateral gas pipeline direct to Russia making it less vulnerable than other European countries.


However, Russia is still the EU’s third-biggest trading partner with cross-border trade of $460bn (£272bn) last year, and the latest sanctions being introduced by the EU towards Russian individuals and banks will hurt European countries more than any other – particularly Germany, but also the City of London.

Central to the negotiations over any new gas deal with Gazprom is understood to be one of Ukraine’s wealthiest businessmen, the gas broker, Dmitry Firtash. Mr Firtash – who negotiated the first big gas deal between the Ukraine and Russia between 2006 and 2009 – is now living in Vienna fighting extradition charges from the Americans. But he has close relations with the Russian and Ukrainian leaders – he supported Mr Poroschenko – and has been acting as a go-between behind the scenes at the highest levels.
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Generał Skalski o żydach w UB :

"Różański, Żyd, kanalia najgorszego gatunku, razem z Brystigerową, Fejginami, to wszystko (...) nie byli ludzie."

prof. PAN Krzysztof Jasiewicz o Ĺźydach :

"Żydów gubi brak umiaru we wszystkim i przekonanie, że są narodem
wybranym. Czują się oni upoważnieni do interpretowania wszystkiego,
także doktryny katolickiej. Cokolwiek byśmy zrobili, i tak będzie
poddane ich krytyce - za mało, że źle, że zbyt mało ofiarnie. W moim
najgłębszym przekonaniu szkoda czasu na dialog z Żydami, bo on do
niczego nie prowadzi... Ludzi, którzy używają słów 'antysemita',
'antysemicki', należy traktować jak ludzi niegodnych debaty, którzy
usiłują niszczyć innych, gdy brakuje argumentów merytorycznych. To oni
tworzą mowę nienawiści".

W dniu 31.07.2014 20:12, u2 pisze:

W dniu 2014-07-31 o 20:09, u2 pisze:

Krym za gaz :

http://niezalezna.pl/57872-tajne-porozumienie-merkel-putin-krym-za-gaz

Angela Merkel i Władimir Putin omawiają tajne porozumienie, które może
zakończyć kryzys na Ukrainie – donosi „The Independent”.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/land-for-gas-secret-german-deal-could-end-ukraine-crisis-9638764.html


Land for gas: Merkel and Putin discussed secret deal could end Ukraine
crisis

Merkel and Putin negotiate to trade Crimea’s sovereignty for guarantees
on energy security and trade

Margareta Pagano

Thursday, 31 July 2014
Germany and Russia have been working on a secret plan to broker a
peaceful solution to end international tensions over the Ukraine.


The Independent can reveal that the peace plan, being worked on by both
Angela Merkel and Vladimir Putin, hinges on two main ambitions:
stabilising the borders of Ukraine and providing the financially
troubled country with a strong economic boost, particularly a new energy
agreement ensuring security of gas supplies.

More controversially, if Ms Merkel’s deal were to be acceptable to the
Russians, the international community would need to recognise Crimea’s
independence and its annexation by Russia, a move that some members of
the United Nations might find difficult to stomach.

Sources close to the secret negotiations claim that the first part of
the stabilisation plan requires Russia to withdraw its financial and
military support for the various pro-separatist groups operating in
eastern Ukraine. As part of any such agreement, the region would be
allowed some devolved powers.

In pictures: Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crash

At the same time, the Ukrainian President would agree not to apply to
join Nato. In return, President Putin would not seek to block or
interfere with the Ukraine’s new trade relations with the European Union
under a pact signed a few weeks ago.

Second, the Ukraine would be offered a new long-term agreement with
Russia’s Gazprom, the giant gas supplier, for future gas supplies and
pricing. At present, there is no gas deal in place; Ukraine’s gas
supplies are running low and are likely to run out before this winter,
which would spell economic and social ruin for the country.


As part of the deal, Russia would compensate Ukraine with a
billion-dollar financial package for the loss of the rent it used to pay
for stationing its fleets in the Crimea and at the port of Sevastopol on
the Black Sea until Crimea voted for independence in March.

However, these attempts by Ms Merkel to act as a broker between
President Putin and the Ukraine’s President, Petro Poroshenko, were put
on the back-burner following the shooting down of the MH17 plane in
eastern Ukraine.

But insiders who are party to the discussions said yesterday that the
“German peace plan is still on the table and the only deal around.
Negotiations have stalled because of the MH17 disaster but they are
expected to restart once the investigation has taken place.”

Video: More pressure on Putin over Ukraine
“It is in everyone’s interests to do a deal. Hopefully, talks will be
revived if a satisfactory outcome can be reached to investigations now
taking place as to the causes of the MH17 catastrophe.”

Closer trading ties with the EU have been one of the big ambitions of Mr
Poroshenko’s presidency. He has been a staunch supporter of the
country’s pro-European movement even though he is unaffiliated to any
political party. He was one of the backers of the 2004 Orange Revolution
and served as Foreign Minister under Yulia Tymoshenko.


A spokesman for the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said they had no
knowledge of such negotiations taking place. However, the spokesman said
he thought it highly unlikely that either the US or UK would agree to
recognising Russian control over Crimea. There was no one available at
the German embassy’s press office yesterday.

Reaching a solution to the ongoing dispute is pertinent for the Germans
as Russia is their single biggest trading partner. Under Ms Merkel, the
Russo-German axis has strengthened significantly and, until the plane
shooting, her government had been staunchly against punitive sanctions
for commercial but also diplomatic reasons.  Ukraine crisis: Bridges
blown up as rebels retreat

Such strong trade ties between the two countries have also served to
strengthen Ms Merkel’s hand and the Russian speaker has emerged as the
leading advocate of closer relations between the EU and Russia. “This is
Merkel’s deal. She has been dealing direct with President Putin on this.
She needs to solve the dispute because it’s in no one’s interest to have
tension in the Ukraine or to have Russia out in the cold. No one wants
another Cold War,” said one insider close to the negotiations.

Some of Germany’s biggest companies have big operations in Russia, which
is now one of Europe’s biggest car markets, while many of its small to
medium companies are also expanding into the country. Although Russia
now provides EU countries with a third of their gas supplies through
pipelines crossing the Ukraine, Germany has its own bilateral gas
pipeline direct to Russia making it less vulnerable than other European
countries.


However, Russia is still the EU’s third-biggest trading partner with
cross-border trade of $460bn (ÂŁ272bn) last year, and the latest
sanctions being introduced by the EU towards Russian individuals and
banks will hurt European countries more than any other – particularly
Germany, but also the City of London.

Central to the negotiations over any new gas deal with Gazprom is
understood to be one of Ukraine’s wealthiest businessmen, the gas
broker, Dmitry Firtash. Mr Firtash – who negotiated the first big gas
deal between the Ukraine and Russia between 2006 and 2009 – is now
living in Vienna fighting extradition charges from the Americans. But he
has close relations with the Russian and Ukrainian leaders – he
supported Mr Poroschenko – and has been acting as a go-between behind
the scenes at the highest levels.

Bezpieczniacka ściema towarzyszu...

Angela Merkel i Władimir Putin omawiają tajne porozumienie,

Zgodne z duche Układu w Rapallo
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uk%C5%82ad_w_Rapallo

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Nie da się oddzielić polityki od religii. Nie da się w człowieku oddzielić
katolika od obywatela. Rozdział państwa od Kościoła jest sztuczny.

W dniu 2014-07-31 o 20:37, abc pisze:

Angela Merkel i Władimir Putin omawiają tajne porozumienie,

Zgodne z duche Układu w Rapallo
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uk%C5%82ad_w_Rapallo

a skonczy sie jak zwykle wojna miedzy nimi:)

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Generał Skalski o żydach w UB :

"Różański, Żyd, kanalia najgorszego gatunku, razem z Brystigerową, Fejginami, to wszystko (...) nie byli ludzie."

prof. PAN Krzysztof Jasiewicz o Ĺźydach :

"Żydów gubi brak umiaru we wszystkim i przekonanie, że są narodem
wybranym. Czują się oni upoważnieni do interpretowania wszystkiego,
także doktryny katolickiej. Cokolwiek byśmy zrobili, i tak będzie
poddane ich krytyce - za mało, że źle, że zbyt mało ofiarnie. W moim
najgłębszym przekonaniu szkoda czasu na dialog z Żydami, bo on do
niczego nie prowadzi... Ludzi, którzy używają słów 'antysemita',
'antysemicki', należy traktować jak ludzi niegodnych debaty, którzy
usiłują niszczyć innych, gdy brakuje argumentów merytorycznych. To oni
tworzą mowę nienawiści".